Exercpts from KKS Lecture in April 2006Just like Bhakti Siddhanta Sarasvati Thakur, the spiritual master of our founder acharya Srila Prabhupada. He once gave a lecture and in that lecture he basically says to the people “So are you convinced now about Krishna Consciousness.” They all said, like good audience “Ohh Yesss!” “Are you really convinced?” “Yes yes yes we are really convinced” and then, ok,the lecture finished and after the programme they were talking a little and people said “well we have to go now”…He said…… “Go now? What do you mean? You said you were convinced, right? You were convinced where do you want to go? Where do you want to go, there’s nowhere to go and you may think there’s a reason to go but even if there’s a fire know that all those things that are burning in the fire anyway you had to give your relationship with them, because whatever can burn in fire you will have to give up your relationship with, that and whatever can not burn in fire that you will maintain”…….That was getting intense! Everyone was saying “Yeah, Yeah very nice” and they all went home. Everyone said “Yes,Yes we agree” and they went home. That is the nature. So it is very interesting how we have different compartments, compartments in our head, one compartment in our head is totally convinced “Yes, Yes I believe this Yes, I agree with it” but the other part we don’t act upon it, we act totally in the opposite way as if we don’t understand the higher knowledge. It’s very interesting how we can have these two sides in us which are totally contradictory and it’s totally ok to be like that, this is our position…But not Krishna, Krishna is truly transcendental, not just a little bit transcendental but completely on the platform of the spiritual world………………
rest of lecture……………………………………….………………..The person Krishna, what is in the person Krishna and it is said if we see in the same way the material world, we should take it that if we see beauty in this world take it as the smile of Krishna. So there’s a lot more beauty in Krishna then there’s in this world because the smile is only a welcome invitation, a little smile is like ..yes …come welcome, smile, nice ……that’s not everything. There’s a lot behind the smile there’s a whole universe behind the smile to find out, a whole spiritual world to find out behind the smile of Krishna so let us understand beauty in this world is the smile of Krishna…An invitation to experience the unlimited spiritual world so that’s the spiritual purport …..questions anyone else?Devotees speakKrishna knows everything about the future? Yeah…but therefore He doesn’t. He doesn’t enjoy anything material, He doesn’t enjoy this world but He enjoys in Goloka because in Goloka He doesn’t know everything about the future due to Yoga Maya…Krishna knows past, present and future but in the spiritual world Krishna allows Himself to become covered by His own illusory energy so that He doesn’t know the future. He knows and He doesn’t…sometimes He knows and sometimes He doesn’t. When a devotee comes up to Krishna and says to Krishna, “Krishna! What have I got in my hand?” Krishna doesn’t reply…Maharaja speaks in a authoritive deep cosmic voice as if a voice from the sky…… “Look I am the personality of Godhead, I am all pervading, I already knew what you put in your hand before you even thought of it, you think you can surprise me? Nobody ever suprises me.” It’s not like that. He allows Himself to become covered by His own yogamaya, by His own illusory energy and then He really doesn’t know what the devotee has in his hand. He doesn’t know, no idea. But here in this world He knows everything, everything, so here there are no suprises for Krishna…therefore in the material world Krishna doesn’t enjoy the material energy, the material world, nothing here for Him to enjoy…….conversationThere is a choice…..again…..The living entity has the choice to serve Krishna or to not serve Krishna. As soon as we serve Krishna we also come under this yoga maya energy together with Krishna and then we go in the realm where Krishna doesn’t know and there we have independence. We can change our destiny but before that we are simply under Karma and everything predestined ,…. so as long as we are in the material world everything predestined…it’s all by karma….So it’s all going on, by the three material modes of nature, here we don’t really make a choice. It’s all one big puflofs reflex, you know mr puflofs and the rats and three little tunnels and door number one, you put some food and the doors are made of metal. Then the second day the rat came back, great ..go straight to gate number one and dr.pufflof put some electricity on gate number one, you know, so….. This rat comes and arrrrgggh and didn’t go back to gate number1 and tried gate number two and three but never number one again, right. So the whole world is actually a big puflofs reflex, where we are just responding like the rat and this is called the learning process, education we call it………………conversationYeah, if we become devotees we gradually become more and more advanced and Krishna will start to allow himself to become covered but not for ordinary devotees. One must be like a liberated devotee, at this point we can not, but Krishna gives us the freedom of choice…….yes, so with the devotee Krishna doesn’t know everything but He may know almost everything…just like Arjuna, Krishna said I know past, present and future. Krishna also says I know all the births you and I have taken, I can remember them and you can not ….so this is Krishna. Krishna in His position of God, the All powerfull, the All knowing but when Krishna is the cowherd boy with His residents of Vrndavan then He becomes covered also by the forgetfulness….someone asks questionYeah in the spiritual world past, present and future are not existing in that same sense, although there is obviously some concept, but it is not necessarily going on in a nice sequence, but there is the beginning of the day, the end of the day, going and coming back and there is doing one thing and the next and…it’s not all chaotic, there’s a sequence. Krishna leaves Vrndavan and walks outside of the house and he walks down the path and He gets to the border of Vrndavan and everyone follows Him to that point so there’s still sequence so they still say He left the house and then He passed this and this tree and then He passed the lake and then He came by the hill and then He went around the curve and then He disappeared into the forest. So, it all comes in sequence, so there is a sequence of events, sequence, so it’s not like in the same sequence of time as is here….How to understand? Impossible, impossible, we can not understand because we can not think beyond time. We can theoretically say there is a world in the spiritual but there is no time but we can not imagine it…best answer is wait till you get there and you will see how there is no time because here it is too much for us, we can not think outside, outside of time even if you try, like here..things on the altar I see maybe it’s time, I see also people yawning so I think maybe it’s overtime….so let us stop…. thank You very much…Srila Prabhupada Ki Jaya!
Exercpts from KKS Lecture in April 2006Just like Bhakti Siddhanta Sarasvati Thakur, the spiritual master of our founder acharya Srila Prabhupada. He once gave a lecture and in that lecture he basically says to the people “So are you convinced now about Krishna Consciousness.” They all said, like good audience “Ohh Yesss!” “Are you really convinced?” “Yes yes yes we are really convinced” and then, ok,the lecture finished and after the programme they were talking a little and people said “well we have to go now”…He said…… “Go now? What do you mean? You said you were convinced, right? You were convinced where do you want to go? Where do you want to go, there’s nowhere to go and you may think there’s a reason to go but even if there’s a fire know that all those things that are burning in the fire anyway you had to give your relationship with them, because whatever can burn in fire you will have to give up your relationship with, that and whatever can not burn in fire that you will maintain”…….That was getting intense! Everyone was saying “Yeah, Yeah very nice” and they all went home. Everyone said “Yes,Yes we agree” and they went home. That is the nature. So it is very interesting how we have different compartments, compartments in our head, one compartment in our head is totally convinced “Yes, Yes I believe this Yes, I agree with it” but the other part we don’t act upon it, we act totally in the opposite way as if we don’t understand the higher knowledge. It’s very interesting how we can have these two sides in us which are totally contradictory and it’s totally ok to be like that, this is our position…But not Krishna, Krishna is truly transcendental, not just a little bit transcendental but completely on the platform of the spiritual world………………rest of lecture……………………………………….………………..The person Krishna, what is in the person Krishna and it is said if we see in the same way the material world, we should take it that if we see beauty in this world take it as the smile of Krishna. So there’s a lot more beauty in Krishna then there’s in this world because the smile is only a welcome invitation, a little smile is like ..yes …come welcome, smile, nice ……that’s not everything. There’s a lot behind the smile there’s a whole universe behind the smile to find out, a whole spiritual world to find out behind the smile of Krishna so let us understand beauty in this world is the smile of Krishna…An invitation to experience the unlimited spiritual world so that’s the spiritual purport …..questions anyone else?Devotees speakKrishna knows everything about the future? Yeah…but therefore He doesn’t. He doesn’t enjoy anything material, He doesn’t enjoy this world but He enjoys in Goloka because in Goloka He doesn’t know everything about the future due to Yoga Maya…Krishna knows past, present and future but in the spiritual world Krishna allows Himself to become covered by His own illusory energy so that He doesn’t know the future. He knows and He doesn’t…sometimes He knows and sometimes He doesn’t. When a devotee comes up to Krishna and says to Krishna, “Krishna! What have I got in my hand?” Krishna doesn’t reply…Maharaja speaks in a authoritive deep cosmic voice as if a voice from the sky…… “Look I am the personality of Godhead, I am all pervading, I already knew what you put in your hand before you even thought of it, you think you can surprise me? Nobody ever suprises me.” It’s not like that. He allows Himself to become covered by His own yogamaya, by His own illusory energy and then He really doesn’t know what the devotee has in his hand. He doesn’t know, no idea. But here in this world He knows everything, everything, so here there are no suprises for Krishna…therefore in the material world Krishna doesn’t enjoy the material energy, the material world, nothing here for Him to enjoy…….conversationThere is a choice…..again…..The living entity has the choice to serve Krishna or to not serve Krishna. As soon as we serve Krishna we also come under this yoga maya energy together with Krishna and then we go in the realm where Krishna doesn’t know and there we have independence. We can change our destiny but before that we are simply under Karma and everything predestined ,…. so as long as we are in the material world everything predestined…it’s all by karma….So it’s all going on, by the three material modes of nature, here we don’t really make a choice. It’s all one big puflofs reflex, you know mr puflofs and the rats and three little tunnels and door number one, you put some food and the doors are made of metal. Then the second day the rat came back, great ..go straight to gate number one and dr.pufflof put some electricity on gate number one, you know, so….. This rat comes and arrrrgggh and didn’t go back to gate number1 and tried gate number two and three but never number one again, right. So the whole world is actually a big puflofs reflex, where we are just responding like the rat and this is called the learning process, education we call it………………conversationYeah, if we become devotees we gradually become more and more advanced and Krishna will start to allow himself to become covered but not for ordinary devotees. One must be like a liberated devotee, at this point we can not, but Krishna gives us the freedom of choice…….yes, so with the devotee Krishna doesn’t know everything but He may know almost everything…just like Arjuna, Krishna said I know past, present and future. Krishna also says I know all the births you and I have taken, I can remember them and you can not ….so this is Krishna. Krishna in His position of God, the All powerfull, the All knowing but when Krishna is the cowherd boy with His residents of Vrndavan then He becomes covered also by the forgetfulness….someone asks questionYeah in the spiritual world past, present and future are not existing in that same sense, although there is obviously some concept, but it is not necessarily going on in a nice sequence, but there is the beginning of the day, the end of the day, going and coming back and there is doing one thing and the next and…it’s not all chaotic, there’s a sequence. Krishna leaves Vrndavan and walks outside of the house and he walks down the path and He gets to the border of Vrndavan and everyone follows Him to that point so there’s still sequence so they still say He left the house and then He passed this and this tree and then He passed the lake and then He came by the hill and then He went around the curve and then He disappeared into the forest. So, it all comes in sequence, so there is a sequence of events, sequence, so it’s not like in the same sequence of time as is here….How to understand? Impossible, impossible, we can not understand because we can not think beyond time. We can theoretically say there is a world in the spiritual but there is no time but we can not imagine it…best answer is wait till you get there and you will see how there is no time because here it is too much for us, we can not think outside, outside of time even if you try, like here..things on the altar I see maybe it’s time, I see also people yawning so I think maybe it’s overtime….so let us stop…. thank You very much…Srila Prabhupada Ki Jaya!
